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Kyma X Revealed Page 119 - My Sound Dies When I Insert AR Envelope!?

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I am finally learning how to use my Pacarana in Kyma 7.  Following page by page in Kyma X Revealed.  Following the example MyFirstSoundFile/tense anticipation on Page 119, everything was working fine until I inserted the AR DragDrop prototype (got same effect with ADSR prototype) - my Circklon no longer triggers sound.  But if I remove the envelope, I can trigger this pathway via the sequencer.  The pathway is noise-(ARDragDrop)-Chopper-TwoFormantElement-MIdiVoice-Gain-etc.  Placing AR in the pathway cuts out the Noise prototype, even after rolling the AR dice to try to get a response.

What am I missing or doing wrong?

http://kyma.symbolicsound.com/qa/?qa=blob&qa_blobid=4524320130562934128

Thanks for helping a newbie!

asked Jan 27, 2016 in Sound Design by theodore-liston (140 points)
edited Jan 28, 2016 by theodore-liston
Can you upload the Sound here? It's difficult to tell otherwise ;)
Thanks - I uploaded with the AR inserted.  Probably a simple oversight, thanks for taking the time to help!
You're welcome! Off Kyma now, but will check tomorrow!

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The chopped and filtered audio on the branch of the Sound with the AR Drag&Drop is quite quiet. If you increase the Gain fader up to 5, you will be able to hear it.

If that doesn't do the trick, then please check the following:

The AR Drag&Drop from the System Prototypes is gated by !KeyDown, which means it is off until a MIDI key event comes in to the Paca(rana).

If you do not have a MIDI keyboard connected to your Paca(rana) right now, you could use any of the following to play that Sound:

  • Fake keyboard from the Tools menu
  • The keyboard or Tonnetz tab in KymaControl for the iPad
  • The eraser end of the pen on a Wacom tablet
  • An MPE controller such as the LinnStrument or Sound Plane
  • A Continuum Fingerboard from Haken Audio

For even more information on triggering and gating you might enjoy reading Barton McLean's tutorials in the Insights Magazine.

answered Jan 28, 2016 by ssc (Savant) (127,060 points)
Thank you for the prompt reply!  The fake keyboard definitely works, looks like I need to read Barton's tutorials…….
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The OP uses KymaConnect so he contacted us to see if we could shed any light on this situation. It turned out that the "Continuum and MPE Compatible" setting was set to on in the DSP's MIDI preferences.

The OP is not using an MPE or Continuum, yet the Pacarana was operating in MPE mode. By default MPE uses MIDI channels starting at channel 2 to send "touch events" (essential key press events). Because the Pacarana was operating in MPE mode it was expecting the first touch event on channel 2, the second on channel 3, and so on. So it was not responding to MIDI note evens on channel 1; MIDI note events on channel 1 were ignored.

Turning off the "Continuum and MPE Compatible" setting returned the Pacarana to normal operation once the sound was reloaded.
answered Feb 2, 2016 by delora-software (Master) (5,660 points)
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