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How to make an analog-style matrix mixer in Kyma for nonlinear feedback explorations?

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Hi All,

I've searched the Q&A and manuals and haven't been able to find an example or prototype for an analog-style matrix mixer in Kyma, to play around with nonlinear feedback (I am working with FeedbackLoopInput + FeedbackLoopOutput and Feedback using MemoryWriter), so I thought I would ask the hive mind - any ideas?

As far as I can tell, the Matrix4/Matrix8 and Output4/Output8 mixers send their inputs directly to channel outputs, and don't allow feedback routings because they need to be the rightmost sound in the signal flow.

Thanks!
asked Jun 19, 2020 in Sound Design by andrew-raffo-dewar (Practitioner) (400 points)
edited Jun 19, 2020 by andrew-raffo-dewar
I recommend Alan Jackson's answer to the below linked question, which is also helpful/relevant to this question:

https://kyma.symbolicsound.com/qa/5409/whats-the-best-way-for-re-sampling-within-kyma?show=5417#c5417

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The best way I've found is to use FeedbackLoops and lots of scripting. 

You can of course make a matrix mixer by hand with FeedbackLoopInput and FeedbackLoopOutput and lots of mixers on the input of each destination Sound. The issue I've found when I've done that is that the flow gets complicated quite quickly and there's not a neat way of laying out a matrix mixer in the flow editor. You have a lot of wires crossing from every possible source to every possible destination. Once I've built a Sound like that by hand I find that the things I'm creating feedback loops around, which are usually the things I want to change, are embedded in the middle of this web of connections. Also if I change the number of things in my matrix say from a 4x4 matrix to 5x5 it's a bit labourious adding all the extra connections in. 

The scripted approach has the advantage of being flexible later but it's not the simpliest scripting. 

I've built a couple of matrix mixers (stereo and mono) as re-usable encapsulation, which I'm just about to release (please excuse the shameless plug). They simplify the flow, make it easy to swap the Sounds in the middle of the matrix and create all the VCS controls for you.

Here's a sneak preview:

 

 

Here's a quick demo of me using it with a very simple setup of a looping cello sample, a delay and a low pass filter. 
https://youtu.be/Wwj5icl_lsg

answered Jun 20, 2020 by alan-jackson (Virtuoso) (15,840 points)
Fantastic, Alan – plug away – wonderful news!

Please do let me know when it's ready, and thanks for making this!
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