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  • #1864
    Knut Kaulke
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      minor update: It now also works with activated Ext. in and outs.

      The IAC Sends are really still from old times, where I did a little more complex MIDI pros.
      Now I use much more OSC 🙂

      So I could do without the single IAC bus in “Ext. out ” if I just want to separate the reception of KymaConnect in Ableton Live according to MIDI channels.

      #1865
      Delora Software
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        IPv6 was actually set to “off”. I have now set it to “automatic” and repeated step 3. Only this time I also disabled my Ext. in and outs in KymaConnect.
        It works KymaConnect is fully connected according to the status display:)

        Excellent news! Looks like there is no longer a reason to use the PacaDHCP work-around. You can re-enable your EXT Midi slots and just ignore the yellow status indicator. As long as the two LEDs near the Pacarana are green you have a working connect.

        #1866
        Delora Software
        Participant

          The IAC Sends are really still from old times, where I did a little more complex MIDI pros.
          Now I use much more OSC 🙂

          So I could do without the single IAC bus in “Ext. out ” if I just want to separate the reception of KymaConnect in Ableton Live according to MIDI channels.

          Keep using the IAC’s with the EXT MIDI slots if that works for you. I was mainly curious to better understand your use-case.

          #1867
          Knut Kaulke
          Participant

            I just noticed that sometimes my Ext.2 (To External MIDI) is not displayed correctly, but it works. Please have a look at the screen shot.

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            #1869
            Delora Software
            Participant

              Thanks for the screen shot. Looks like a bug. I’ll see if I can reproduce it here.

              #1898
              Delora Software
              Participant

                The bug where KymaConnect was not displaying the correct device name should be fixed in the just release (2020-07-24) BETA 4. If the problem reoccurs please let me know.

                #1899
                Knut Kaulke
                Participant

                  It’s working very well so far. Thank you for the update!
                  I have one more feature request and one more question:

                  I work with the Lemur Daemon, whose ports I specified in KymaConnect. When starting my Mac I have to set these ports in KymaConnect every time. Is it possible to change this in version 2 of KymaConnect?

                  You once asked in Q&A about the Wormhole setup in Kyma7+. Are there any new findings in using KymaConnect?

                  Thanks, Knut

                  #1900
                  Delora Software
                  Participant

                    You once asked in Q&A about the Wormhole setup in Kyma7+. Are there any new findings in using KymaConnect?

                    I do not have access to multiple Pacas/Pacaranas to verify this myself so I can only relay what I have been told by others. The official Symbolic Sound information that I have comes from the Kyma 7.35f0 release notes (2020-07-01):

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                    Wormhole now works with an Ethernet connection to the host computer (substituting for the FireWire connection from Paca(rana) to host computer): use four Cat6 gigabit Ethernet cables and a gigabit Ethernet switch (for example, a NETGEAR GS305):

                    1. Host computer Ethernet to switch
                    2. Paca(rana) #1 Port A to Paca(rana) #2 Port A
                    3. Paca(rana) #1 Port B to switch
                    4. Paca(rana) #2 Port B to switch

                    ======

                    This confirms that you can set up a Wormhole that uses only the computer’s Ethernet connection to communicate with the Pacas (no FireWire to computer necessary). When the host computer is a Mac running KymaConnect, or even a Mac as a second computer connected to the same Ethernet switch, KymaConnect works as expected.

                    Wormhole set ups have always had a limitation that prevented KymaConnect 1 from operating correctly without a work around called “PacaDHCP” that I created and provided to interested Wormhole users. The limitation had to do with using IP4 for network connections. KymaConnect 1 can only operate with IP4.

                    KymaConnect 2 supports IPv6 and IPv4. If the network connection between the Mac running KymaConnect 2 and the Pacarana (or Wormhole) is configured to allow IPv6 connections then the PacaDHCP work around should not be necessary. Wormholes should “just work” with KymaConnect 2, provided the set up uses the Ethernet switch as outlined above.

                    IPv6 is enabled by default on macOS network ports, and it is unusual for IPv6 to be disabled. So I would not expect users to have to do any special network configuration related to IPv6 support.

                    As I mentioned above, I have no way of directly confirming that the Wormhole set up now works like this. I have, however had a BETA user report success.

                     

                    #1901
                    Delora Software
                    Participant

                      I work with the Lemur Daemon, whose ports I specified in KymaConnect. When starting my Mac I have to set these ports in KymaConnect every time. Is it possible to change this in version 2 of KymaConnect?

                      Is this for use with original JazzMutant Lemur hardware controller, or for the Lemur app?

                      Some background…

                      The original JazzMutant Daemon, and its successor the Lemur Daemon, both do not create the eight CoreMIDI virtual ports (Daemon 1, Daemon 2…) in the manner that CoreMIDI expects. The Daemon utility creates a completely new set of virtual MIDI ports each time it is run, instead of recreating the same set from the last time it ran. It gives them the same name but CoreMIDI does not use names to differentiate ports; names are not guaranteed to be unique. This is why you have to reconnect things in KymaConnect, and most other applications (including many DAWs) each time you restart Lemur Daemon.

                      Is a work around even necessary?

                      Tablet Lemur users can completely avoid this problem by one of two methods:

                      1. Do not use Lemur Daemon but instead make all of your OSC and MIDI connections direct from the Lemur app. The app supports network MIDI so it is possible to create a network session on the Mac that is running KymaConnect and connect that session to the iPad’s network MIDI session. Each Mac network MIDI session creates its own virtual midi I/O port. That can be assigned to one of KymaConnect’s EXT MIDI slots. The main limitation of this method is that the iPad can only have a single network MIDI session active. So you cannot have a Lemur template sending different MIDI data to different MIDI destinations, or receiving differentiate the source of MIDI from multiple MIDI sources.

                      2. Continue to use Lemur Daemon but do not use the Daemon 0 – Daemon 7. Connect to vPacarana. The Lemur Daemon will remember the connection and restore it whenever vPacarana is available (i.e. when KymaConnect is running). Since you are directly connecting to the Pacarana through the vPacarana port there is no need to use one of KymaConnect’s EXT MIDI slots to communicate with the Lemur.

                      My testing with original Lemur hardware has shown that it is not compatible with the newer Lemur Daemon, and unfortunately, the original Jazz Daemon utility is a bit broken with how it handles CoreMIDI ports. It does not properly respond to changes in port availability. Method #2 may work with Jazz Daemon but you must launch Jazz Daemon after your MIDI ports are already available, otherwise the ports will never show up as available in the Daemon. So you have to make sure KymaConnect is running (but not necessarily connected to the Paca!) before you launch Jazz Daemon.

                       

                      #1902
                      Knut Kaulke
                      Participant

                        I’ll try the wormhole setup. I have a Neatgear Switch GS105v5. I could try that with this.

                        Furthermore I have realized your suggestion #2 for my iPad Lemur. Using the Daemon Mac client I have direct access to all MIDI ports (including the IAC busses) and route MIDI to the Pacarana and IAC busses. This works fine without using the 0-7 daemons. Thank you!

                        #1921
                        Knut Kaulke
                        Participant

                          I have a problem with the current beta version under macOS 10.15.6. Suddenly after starting my computer I get an error message in the system settings that KymaConnect cannot be loaded. Yesterday everything was still running fine.
                          Could it be that my switch from bash to zsh login shell has something to do with this?

                          #1922
                          Knut Kaulke
                          Participant

                            When I use the current Beta-installer for reinstallation, I get the error message at the end:
                            “kymaconnect_agent_stop” damages your computer.

                            #1923
                            Delora Software
                            Participant

                              I have a problem with the current beta version under macOS 10.15.6. Suddenly after starting my computer I get an error message in the system settings that KymaConnect cannot be loaded. Yesterday everything was still running fine.
                              Could it be that my switch from bash to zsh login shell has something to do with this?

                              I am sorry that you ran into this. This was not caused by changing the login shell. There is a problem with the KymaConnect 2 BETA 4 that caused it to stop operating before the planned expiration date. Restarting the computer, logging out and back in, will cause the agent program to halt. If you try to access the KymaConnect preference pane System Preferences refuses to load it and you get the message you saw.

                              We already have KymaConnect 2 BETA 5 ready for distribution but are unable to upload it to the Community Library at the present time. We are working with Symbolic Sound to resolve this issue.

                              If anyone sees this message, and there is not any follow ups saying BETA 5 is available for download, please contact me directly via email = support (AT) delora (DOT) com and I will arrange with you to get you the BETA 5 installer directly.

                              I am very sorry that this has happened!

                              #1924
                              Delora Software
                              Participant

                                When I use the current Beta-installer for reinstallation, I get the error message at the end:
                                “kymaconnect_agent_stop” damages your computer.

                                This is a false warning. There is nothing in the BETA 4 installer that can damage your computer. macOS Catalina is showing this message because  “kymaconnect_agent_stop” was codesigned by a no longer valid certificate. This is related to the same problem that caused KymaConnect 2 BETA 4 to stop working. “kymaconnect_agent_stop” is a utility program that has been part of the KymaConnect installer for a long time. It is used to stop the KymaConnect agent before performing the installation.

                                #1925
                                Delora Software
                                Participant

                                  TO ALL KYMACONNECT 2 BETA USERS

                                  KymaConnect 2 BETA 4 no longer operates. You will see the kind of error message that Knut Kaulke noted in post 1921. Reinstalling using the BETA 4 installer will not resolve the problem and will show the misleading message noted in post 1922.

                                  We have the new BETA 5 installer ready but cannot currently upload it to the Kyma Community Library. We are working to resolve this issue, and if necessary will provide an alternative interim way to download the installer. I will post a message here once I know more.

                                  If you have a pressing need to use KymaConnect 2 please contact me using email at support (AT) delora (DOT) com. Together we can figure out how best to get you the installer.

                                  Previous releases of KymaConnect 2 BETA (1, 2, 3, 4) are no longer useful. I recommend that you delete them to avoid possible confusion.

                                  Doug

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